Will Trump Run in 2024? | Robert Gibbs and Rick Wilson with Ciaran O’Connor

Will Donald Trump run again in 2024? How will the recent leak of a Supreme Court opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade affect the 2022 midterm elections? How can Democrats and Republicans address the divides within their own parties? Former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and Lincoln Project Co-Founder Rick Wilson join Ciaran O’Connor for a wide-ranging discussion—previously recorded as part of the Crosscut Festival—on the state of the national political landscape.

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