Ciaran O'Connor

Ciaran O'Connor

Ciaran O'Connor is the Chief Marketing Officer for Braver Angels.

A Trump Supporter and a Black Lives Matter Activist Discuss Policing and Racial Justice

Hawk Newsome
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Ciaran and John host a lively Better Angels discussion between Hawk Newsome, the head of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, and Greg Smith, a Trump supporter and former police officer.

Produced by Harry Fortuna.

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