Ciaran O'Connor

Ciaran O'Connor

Ciaran O'Connor is the Chief Marketing Officer for Braver Angels.

Braver Angels Podcast on LGBTQ Rights and Religious Liberty

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Can gay rights activists and proponents of religious liberty build the trust and understanding needed to find common ground? Or is this divide destined to be a zero-sum fight?

Jonathan Rauch is a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institute and a contributing writer at The Atlantic. He’s also a gay man who helped lead the movement to legalize same-sex marriage.

Glenn Stanton is the Director of Global Family Formation Studies at Focus on the Family, a senior contributor to The Federalist, and an opponent of same-sex marriage. 

Jon and Glenn are longtime ideological adversaries — and good friends.

In this episode, Braver Angels co-founder Bill Doherty leads a passionate and candid discussion between the two men on the topic of LGBTQ rights and religious liberty in the context of recent Supreme Court decisions relevant to the divide.

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