Ciaran O’Connor and John Wood, Jr. welcome Terence Szuplat to the podcast. Terry was Barack Obama’s senior foreign policy speech writer and a member of the administration’s speechwriting team for all eight years of the Obama presidency. Here Terry talks his work with the Obama administration, his experience coming to a Braver Angels workshop, and the challenge of unearthing common values across the partisan divide.

Learning and unlearning red and blue
We may need labels like “red” and “blue” to do what we do. But let us never confuse our labels with the truth of who we actually are.